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March 09, 2010

HOW HAIL GETS REPORTED TO NOAA 2010 CHANGES

Changes on the way for hail warnings

COLTER HETTICH Special to Scripps Texas Newspapers
Updated Sunday, December 27, 2009

— Hail measuring three-quarters of an inch in diameter will no longer be considered a symptom of severe weather by the National Weather Service.

Beginning Jan. 5, hail must reach 1 inch in diameter or winds reach speeds greater than 58 mph in order for the NWS to issue a severe thunderstorm warning.

The decision comes after four years of National Weather Service research and independent studies, including Texas Tech research that found significant roof damage does not occur until hail reaches 1 inch in diameter, according to a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Web site.

Seth Nagle, a meteorologist in San Angelo, said the weather service tested the new standards in the Midwest before applying them nationwide.

“Eighty-six percent of the responses were supportive of this,” Nagle said. “Of the 63 responses, 52 rated it 8 or greater as a positive change.”

Although the weather service’s Web site cites “concerns about the public becoming desensitized by numerous warnings” as one reason for the change, Nagle said it did not play a key role in the decision.

“It was simply related to, ‘At what point does hail really cause damage?” Nagle said.

Mark Rowlett, KTXS-TV chief meteorologist, said the National Weather Service met with local meteorologists to explain the decision and to answer questions. During the meeting, Hector Guerrero, warning and coordination meteorologist with the weather service, pulled a nickel and quarter from his pocket to illustrate the difference between old and new criteria.

“They’re still going to note three-quarter-inch hail in the storm reports, but the fact that they were close in size just means it’s not going to be a big issue for people and their safety,” Rowlett said.

Some homeowners might be as concerned for the safety of their roof as themselves. Harold Word, owner of American Roofing in Abilene, said significant damage does not occur until golf ball size or larger, but smaller hailstones can leave visible marks, exposing shingles to the elements and damage over time.

“The marks knock the grain off, and the sun will deteriorate (the shingle) in not too long,” Word said. “The grain protects it.”

Roofs may be able to take smaller than 1-inch hail with minimal damage, but vehicles are a different story.

“If there’s a lot of it, nickel-size hail will cause some damage,” said Claud Champion, owner of Barrett Collision Center and Body Shop in Abilene. “Especially in your newer, lighter made cars, metals are relatively soft.”

Joe Perez, owner of J & R Body Shop in Abilene, said even dime-size hail could cause minor damage.

“Nickel-size will pretty much do around $4,000 of damage to a car,” Perez said. “But mother nature hasn’t been good to the body shops. We haven’t had a good hailstorm in a couple of years.”

Patti Kelly, public affairs and media relations specialist for State Farm Insurance, said the weather service terminology change won’t affect insurance claims processing.

“It does not have any bearing on how we handle claims,” Kelly said. “We will look at each claim on its own merits.”

A storm with the ability to produce three-quarter-inch hail likely can produce 1-inch hail, as well, Rowlett said. Rarely are severe thunderstorms warnings issued because of wind alone.

“I don’t think it’s going to change a lot; wind and hail sort of go hand-in-glove,” Rowlett said.

The hail revision might result in fewer warnings, but Rowlett does not foresee a significant decline.

“I think they’ll err on the side of caution,” he said.

Local television stations do not issue severe weather warnings independently from the weather service but will issue “significant weather advisories” if they observe imminent danger not yet acknowledged by the National Weather Service.

The 1-inch criteria was implemented in Iowa, Illinois, Missouri, Wisconsin, Minnesota and other Midwest states on April 1. Fourteen states, including Texas, will be added beginning in 2010.

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July 09, 2009

WICHITA GETS BUSTED 2009

SOURCE: 

 

NATIONAL GLASS** MOBILE SERVICE** WE COME TO YOU!

AUTO* RESIDENTAL*COMMERCIAL

SERVING ALL OF SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS

CALL: MIKE CRAWFORD, MANAGER@ 316-804-4448
 

"Substantial damages to vehicles 60% increase in calls for hail damage replacement windshield, back glass,ect ect over night."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk0YIS3Fagw

PS: HE WHO SAVES THE DEDUCTIBLES TODAY WILL HURT ALL LATER....


 

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February 20, 2009

On-going blog comments

www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=127178&catid=39   for current comments were tryin

 

Posted By: Bill Liss

 

ATLANTA -- Almost immediately after severe weather hits, neighborhoods are filled with workers who claim to be reputable contractors and experts on pounding out those dings in your car.

Forget them. Play by the rules and you'll get the right repairs and the right price.

For your vehicle:

*Take pictures to document the damage and if the windows are shattered, put a tarp over them.

*Contact your insurance agent to secure the names of reputable vehicle repair shops and contact them to secure an estimate on repairs.

*Do not authorize any repairs until the repair shop and your insurance carrier agree on the price.

*Know the terms of your policy to see if you can rent a car while repairs are being made.

*And know your deductible, so you'll know what you have to pay out of pocket.

*And this note--repairs are covered under the comprehensive part of your policy, so your rates will not be affected.

For your home:

*Take pictures quickly cover the affected areas to prevent further damage.

*As with your vehicle, call your insurance agent for recommendations on contractors or find your own, but be sure they are fully insured and have the proper licenses.

*Again, authorize no repairs until the insurance company and your contractor have made a deal.

*And be sure to know your deductible--what you will have to pay out of pocket.

Georgia Insurance Commission Hotline: 404-656-2070

 



 

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REALWHITEMAN wrote:
I had a new roof put on 11 months ago.
Each week I get a flyer in the mail that reads,
YOU HAVE HAIL DAMAGE!
Ive called the number numerous times to let them know that they are a bunch of liars, And I ask them how in the H do they know that Ive got hail damage. They always hang up on me.
I'm thinking about allowing them to do a house call and jump them in person.
2/19/2009 7:10 PM EST on 11Alive.com
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Mr_Marvin wrote:
LOL @ RWM. I would actually set them up for a nice prank call.
2/19/2009 7:21 PM EST on 11Alive.com
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glenn129 wrote:
Anyone that steal or takes advantage of a person like this should get double the fines and time in prison.
2/19/2009 7:46 PM EST on 11Alive.com
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pbannon1 wrote:
Come on everyone. We all know, if your car has hail damage you can save your money by just rolling up all the windows tight and blowing in the exhaust. See, now no one will be scammed. *snort,snort*
2/19/2009 8:42 PM EST on 11Alive.com
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DitchDoc wrote:
Give me a break, you never hire someone who seeks you out, all you have to do is hire a real company, you know one with a real building and that advertises all year around, not someone who buys a $20.00 magnetic sign to slap on the side of their truck and offers to fix the damages for half price, paid up front of course.
2/19/2009 8:57 PM EST on 11Alive.com
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Jane1968 wrote:
I have guys come to my door periodically (usually after a big storm) telling me I have missing shingles and offering their services. I can't believe that people fall for this scam.

I simply say no thanks and slam the door in their faces... kind of like when Jehovah's Witnesses visit at 8 am on a Saturday... To me, they are all a bunch of scam artists.

2/19/2009 9:07 PM EST on 11Alive.com
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HI BILL BLISS

THIS IS MIKE WITH THE AUTO HAIL REPAIR NEWS/BLOG I HAVE READ YOUR ARTICLE AND I FEEL SOME OF YOU OPINIONS CAST THE AUTO HAIL REPAIR TRADE IN A BAD LIGHT DUE TO THE FACT WE TRAVEL.

THE SKILL SET NEEDED TO FIX THE CARS YOU HAVE HERE NOW WILL REQUIRE AUTO HAIL REPAIR TECHNICIANS MOST LOCAL TECHS IN YOUR AREA, OR MOST CAT STORMS IN THE USA OR OVER SEAS DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE NEEDED TO REPAIR THESE THUS WE COME.

THE AVG HAIL TECH HAS 4 YEARS OF FIELD EXPERIENCE BEFORE THAY CAN COMPLETE A JOB START TO FINISH THATS HOW DETAILED THIS WORK IS A TRADE TOP TECH HAS 10-15 YEARS IN.

HERES A EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE DO: DOUGLASVILLE,GA 2008 HAIL TECHNICIANS FROM AROUND THE WORLD ASSITED THE COMMUNITY BODY SHOPS AND INSURANCE COMPANIES RETURNING VEHICLES BACK TO OWNERS IN PRE LOSS CONDITION IN 1/3 THE TIME AND 1/2 THE COST OF CONVENTIONAL REPAIR METHODS?

WE ESTIMATE THAT OPX 8-12 THOUSAND CARS WERE REPAIRED LOCAL GUYS CANNOT PROVIDE THIS, THIS IS OUR TRADE.

DID YOU KNOW PAINTLESS DENT REPAIR IS A GREEN TRADE, OR PDR IS THE FASTEST GROWING METHOD IN THE BODY SHOPS TODAY?

BOTTOM LINE INFORMATION IS KEY WHEN YOU BLOG THERE IS GOOD AND BAD IN EVERYTHING PLEASE REVIEW ALL SIDES OF A ISSUE BEFORE YOU PUBLISH.


NEDD MORE INFO ON THE TRADE GOTO ULTRADENTTOOLS.COM OR AUTO HAIL REPAIR NEWS/BLOG

THANKS BILL
ANY COMMENT PLEASE E-MAIL ME PDRTCHGEAR@AOL.COM
2/19/2009 10:48 PM EST on 11Alive.com
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Jane1968 wrote:
Dear PDRTCHGEAR: Shove it. The people would rather wait a week or two to get rid of the dents, than to get ripped off by scam artists.

Readers: This is exactly the kind of crap that scam artists pull. They try to convince you that you NEED them. Don't fall for it. Take your vehicle to someone you trust, or at least a well known, established business. If the business is going to send someone to you, then fine. But don't ever do it without your insurance company's approval FIRST.
2/19/2009 11:53 PM EST on 11Alive.com
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This article is among the hundreds of news articles posted every year slanting the storm repair industry as thieves and con's. They never really bother to investigate the industry and use fear to promote their views.

Bill is 100% correct about paintless dent repair. http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=434597

People just blindly believe whatever CRAP the media publishes and don't take the time to find out fact for themselves.

The author says to ask your insurance company for help finding a recommended contractor. Think about this for a minute, one of the biggest expenses insurance companies have each year is paying claims, it cut right into their profits. I've seen the contractors insurance companies recommend for the past 20 years in the insurance restoration industry. None of them can afford to buy a decent vehicle, hmm I wonder why!

There is obviously good and bad in EVERY industry but the real travesty is the hundreds of millions insurance steals from policy holders every year by underpaying claims to fools like most of you here.
2/20/2009 8:24 AM EST on 11Alive.com
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...If a crew of contractors show up at your door, complete with a full size van/motorhome AND wives, girlfriend and kids (not to mention various breeds of animals),...you just might not want to answer. If it walks like a gypsy, talks like a gypsy, smells like a gypsy,...well you all know the rest (NO, Jane1968,...this NOT another completion contest LOL).
2/20/2009 10:50 AM EST on 11Alive.com
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February 19, 2009

Game changer resource for 2009

About StormReportMap.com
Stormreportmap.com started in early 2005 just as the Google Map "hacks" were starting to become more mainstream. Initially, the site started out as a "can I do this" application and morphed into an operation that become useful to the general public, insurance adjusters, schools and ever the Department of Defense. Beginning in late 2006, the site was down due to code changes that Google made to the Maps API. Those changes, unfortuntely, broke the development work that I had put into the initial map "hack". In early 2008, the site was brought back online with the same using the same layout and design that was initially created. In June of 2008, the site was re-introduced along with a new layout, new map icons and greater features. In the future, the site will boast a fee-based premium area that will allow members the ability to expand the search capability for storm reports across multiple states, across multiple states or even the ability to export or print out storm reports.
New Site Features
The recent redesign of the site has introduced quite a few new and interesting features. New map layers including a convective outlook layer, a radar layer and a severe storm warning layer roundout the larger changes you will see.
The convective outlook layer is provided by the Storm Prediction Center (SPC) that helps to illustrate the general threat of severe convective storms over the contiguous United States over the next 6 to 73 hours. Outlooks are issued up to five times a day, as such, this site will attempt to keep up with each Convective Outlook the SPC posts. While there is a schedule for when each outlook is released, most outlooks are issued earlier than scheduled, therefore, this site may not always reflect the most up to date outlook until the scheduled issued outlook time has passed. Currently, the scheduled releases to Convective Outlooks are 0100Z, 1200Z, 1300Z, 1630Z and 2000Z. the SPC also produces a probabalistic overview that shows where larger storm damage is expected. This feature will be added in the near future.
The radar and severe warning layer is provided by the Iowa State Environmental Mesonet. The Iowa State Mesonet team states that this product is still currently under development, however, there have been many people who have been utulizing this service for a while now. Currently, this site is only utulizing the NEXRAD and Severe Warning layers they provide, however, they also provide satellite and infrared layers that could be added to this site in the future.
A calendar feature was added to help users type in previous dates beyond the quick links found on the left-hand side of the page.
About the Storm Report Data
Stormreportmap.com uses data exclusively found from the SPC, a government body found within the National Weather Service (NWS) and the National Centers for Environmental Prediction (NCEP). Collectively, their goal is to provide accurate and timely forecasts, severe outlooks, and watches for severe thunderstorms and tornadoes over the United States. To accomplish this goal, the SPC uses a long list of freely, available, published forecasting tools. Their forecasts are used by local NWS offices, emergency managers, television and radio meteorlogists, avaiation inducstries, storm spotters, educational institutions and many others.
While storm report data is valuable information, it cannot be guaranteed to be 100% accurate. Anyone can make a storm report through their local NWS office, ranging from emergency personnel to the general public. Unfortuntely, due to the numerous sources where reports can come from, erroronous and repetitive data is expected. Some of the most common inaccuracies seen are the number of tornado reports found on the map. As each report is made, there could be occasions where several people are making a reports regarding the same tornado from a different location. While this could be difficult to understand, it does also provide a generic path a tornado may have taken just by how it was observed, illustrated by the pic below of an EF5 that hit Parkersburg, IA.
How often is the data updated?
This application has been optimized to use a local database to store all storm report information that is displayed on this site. We do this for a few reasons:
Bandwidth is expensive. I'm not here to leech off of the SPC website to simply the most up-to-date data possible for every visitor. To alleviate this, the site will automtically update every half-hour, depending on site traffic, to gather the latest storm report from the SPC.
Allows us to display information in any way we see fit. Rather than just gathering the storm information and displaying it for the user, we can show trends in storm frequency, strength and location through different weeks and months out of the year.
How does it work?
The site relies upon the Google Maps API to show all storm report information. Google makes frequent updates to their API, as such, there may be occasional downtimes or problems that arise. For more information, please check out the wonderful documentation.
Compatability
The site should be able to support the following browsers, however, not all have been thoroughly tested.
Internet Explorer 5.5+
Firefox
Safari (Windows/Mac) 2.0+
Netscape 7.1+
Opera 7+
If you are running one of the browsers listed below and having trouble viewing or accesing the data on this site, please contact me.
""AUTO HAIL REPAIR DIRECT COMMENTS FOR THIS RESOURCE""   
Above is the vebatim mission statement for this project. This network also works close with storm chasers from all over via www.stormtrack.com
Auto hail repair news first learned about this site via The Weather Channel as they were covering the Feb 2009 severe weather outbreak in Oklahoma Citys upper west side metro area. After we reviewed this resource we found it to be a very well done They communicate storm path, direction damages, and trends with great detail.
Stormreport also has a vast network of links with additional resources if further research is needed on particular areas of interest.
Bottom line this resource will apply to many fields and trades but our focus is Auto Hail Repair News this tool or data points like it are a must for any Independent technician and or company owner information age meet PDR.
Mike Swider
Auto Hail Repair News   
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April 27, 2008

HERE COMES THE NEWS

DUE TO THE RECENT SWATH OF CAT LOSSES AROUND THE US STAFF AT THE AUTO HAIL REPAIR NEWS HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO REPORT IN REAL TIME SO HERE ARE THE UPDATES..
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March 14, 2008

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January 17, 2008

SKYWARN HISTORY & FUTURE

Weather watchers' meteorological interests provide real-time observation data to Skywarn
By Michelle Brokenbek, Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 16, 2008

 

The excitement of a touchdown, unexpected icing or watching the throwing of some heat brings these spectators out of their seats.

It's not all about sports for these Pittsburghers. Actually, it's not about sports at all.

These people are weather watchers who come alive when a funnel cloud touches ground, find it thrilling as a cold chill blows through or feed their curiosity about an ongoing hot spell.

 


They are part of more than 280,000 volunteers who are certified as Skywarn partners. They report weather activity to the National Weather Service around the clock, around the country. Their real-time observation helps initiate warnings and watches, forecast incoming weather and gather data for future research.

 

Even with advanced technology and the reliability of satellites, "there is always a need for ground troops," says Richard Kane, warning coordination meteorologist at Pittsburgh National Weather Service in Moon Township.

The people who pass along Skywarn information to his office come from neighborhoods throughout a four-state area and from all walks of life. While they have different approaches, the volunteers all take their role as community helpers seriously while still pursuing their meteorological hobby.

The idea of getting average citizens involved in such a way began in the late-1960s in the Great Plains, where weather can come down on people quickly. An outbreak there of more than 1,000 tornadoes made the need for spotters apparent.

The organization of such folks has grown in number ever since and has spread out in every state and increasingly internationally. Granted, southwestern Pennsylvania is not a hotspot for funnel clouds, however, wind challenges like tornados, macrobursts and microbursts do often occur, as does the area's primary weather watcher -- flash flooding.

In this area, there are nearly 3,850 men, women and children middle school-age and older, who call in reports of weather to the national service. Everyone's mission is to save lives and protect property when severe or unexpected weather systems strike.

"You can't replace humans at the ground level," Kane says. Not only does the information offered by weather spotters help the Pittsburgh area, but it also aids forecasters downstream of a system.

Because Skywarn reports aren't really necessary during clear, calm days and nights, volunteers often find themselves out during less-than-perfect times.

Some volunteers, like Bran-don Hill of McCandless, go mobile when weather approaches. Hill, 45, is a stormchaser of more than 20 years. His truck is outfitted with meteorology equipment and communication radios.

Two years ago, when chasing a funnel cloud along Route 19, Hill worried not about the serious weather, but found traffic and populated areas reason for his safety concern.

Weather has interested him ever since he was a boy, Hill says. He has never disregarded his respect for nature. While outside his vehicle measuring hail to report back to the Skywarn net of volunteers one day, the storm quickly intensified without notice and he found himself way too close to a lightning bolt.

"I was pretty quick getting back into the vehicle," he recalls.

"A storm has a mind of its own. There's always a little danger," he says. Not only does he call in important observations, but he also keeps his own records, sometimes setting up ahead of time at a good viewing point to watch the forecasted weather.

Andrew Koch admits to interest in the danger aspect of storm chasing. An EMT, Koch looks at his Skywarn participation at his home in Beechview and in his former home in Florida as another way to be involved in community.

Radio and electronic interest began about 18 years ago when Koch's grandfather gave the then-10-year-old his first CB and scanner. He was pushed to get his radio license, he recalls, and then "got sucked into everything else."

Florida Skywarn presented a different palette of weather. Koch recalls stopping along the road to watch a water spout, a funnel-shaped rotating cloud-filled wind that pulls spray from the surface of the ocean, and surveying tornado aftermath.

He didn't hesitate to go out in bad weather before, but he is less likely to chance events now. "I guess it's like running into a burning building to rescue a stranger's cat." It's just not easy to explain, he says.

He runs many antennas, radios and laptops from his car that always has at least a scanner turned on. He will explore situations being reported on the radio if out in bad weather. Nowadays he always has a camera in hand. Used to being a first-responder, Koch is more than equipped to report accidents and weather events quickly.

Kevin Lupo, 43, of Midland, is a weather spectator. Kane says it would be great if there were Skywarn volunteers spread throughout the state, however, they generally follow population.

That is why there is importance in someone like Lupo, a deputy sheriff in Beaver County, who brings a view of the weather in more remote areas.

He sees his Skywarn participation as another way of serving the public. He is a self-proclaimed "weather goof," having always been attracted to the elements. Even still Lupo says he's not compelled to go out in it for kicks, although snow, never heat, is his favorite climate.

When attending Indiana University of Pennsylvania, he tried unsuccessfully to pick up meteorology classes as an elective. His weather study before Skywarn was self-taught. He has a tabletop weather monitor in his home -- a great tool in making sure he's dressed appropriately for the elements, but not enough to keep him away from his pleasure of watching the cable weather channel.

As a Skywarn volunteer, Lupo says he's able to participate, not just observe. He felt good when not too long after getting his certification, he observed heavy unexpected wind damage and downed trees and called the weather service. His location report was mentioned on the news that evening making him feel he had made a contribution.

Getting that firsthand information in to the right person often includes transmission via ham radio.

Bob Bastone of East Deer, a longtime member of Skyview Radio Club, incorporates his hobby of amateur radio with his involvement at Skywarn.

When the remnants of hurricane Ivan came through in 2004, Bastone was involved. Not just as a Skywarn volunteer, but also by setting up a radio transmission point above the affected Sharpsburg area. It was key in directing emergency units and helping people get messages through when traditional means of communication were out for an extended time.

Skyview members often incorporate severe weather situations into their drills.

At a planned practice, mock reports of downed trees, flooding and emergency situations help to keep skills honed, says Dave Kleber, president-elect of the New Kensington-based Skyview group.

Kleber realized the need of emergency communication and the value of Skywarn about 10 years ago when a macroburst hit at his O'Hara Township home. For five days there was no phone or power, making it apparent to him that something needed to be in place when weather gets the upper hand.

Whenever there is severe weather headed this way, ham radio operators move into action. A ham trained in the advanced Skywarn class will get on a pre-determined frequency and start transmitting to establish himself as the net communicator.

Usually, Kleeber says, the person will send out a general message letting people engaged in casual conversation know that they must clear the frequency so weather situations can be reported.

A network of people monitoring the weather start to relay messages to the net operator, who will use his or her expertise in sifting through information before contacting the weather service. Kleeber says, if a more experienced ham or Skywarn volunteer comes on, the net communicator will readily relinquish control -- it's all about aiding others, not ego.

Bob Mente became a Skywarn volunteer from Collier Township years after knowing about the program but not having taken the class to participate actively. He has always had an innate curiosity about weather.

A friend who was an amateur radio operator prompted Mente to get certified on the airwaves so he too could "participate, not just listen."

Like many other Skywarn volunteers, family members, in Mente's case his wife, also get interested and go on to get their radio license and Skywarn certification.

The two interests seem to hold parallel interests.

If it weren't for ham radio transmissions or Skywarn volunteer telephone calls, the weather service staff might have to call traditional helpers like police departments or emergency management directors to get information about expected bad weather, says Kane.

While these sets of eyes are out in the weather, they might not be Skywarn-trained and would not necessarily know exactly what they are seeing.

An experienced Sky-warn ham also will head out to Moon Township to man the radio at the National Weather Service when weather gets particularly nasty.

As the call sign WX3PIT, Pittsburgh's weather service goes on the receiving end of the nets' gathered information.

With all the radar and computer info in front of him let alone reports from trained observers out in the communities, Kane says he often walks a fine line when issuing weather bulletins. He knows that overusing warnings might lead to complacency and under using may jeopardize the communities he wants to protect.

"About 90 percent of the information used by the media originates with us. The media takes the information and puts value to it."

Kane says "We are all connected by the weather. Don't take it for granted."

The opponent is always Mother Nature and she deserves and has earned the respect of weather watchers everywhere.

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